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This post is a person– who may believe either a gender identity or a Blanchard-Bailey theory of transness– doing their best to write what a Blanchardian believes. Confused about what an Intellectual Turing Test is or what “gender identity” and “Blanchard-Bailey” mean? Click here! Please read, then vote at the end of the post.
How do you define woman/man?
Woman – An adult human assigned female at birth.
Man – An adult human assigned male at birth.
Saying that being a woman or a man is a feeling or state of mind implies that women’s and men’s mindsets are inherently different. The whole concept of gender identity is sexist. “Oh, I like pink, and makeup, and giggling, that’s what women like so I must be a woman.”
It also ignores that for 99.99% of human history and for most people today except a privileged few, there is no changing the categories. If a teenage girl in Somalia really, strongly, identifies as a boy and has done so all her life, that won’t save her from FGM and an arranged marriage.
Even for people who can transition, gender socialization starts at birth. There’ve been tests – parents underestimate their girl babies’ gross motor skills and overestimate for their boys, and assume that a crying girl baby is scared and a crying boy baby is angry. No matter how strongly a man wants breasts and a vagina, it won’t change the fact that everyone around him all his life has treated him as a man.
What are your opinions on the cotton ceiling?
The transwomen who push the idea of the cotton ceiling are sexually entitled male predators. Lots of the anti-cotton ceiling arguments I’ve heard could come from any frat boy. “If you like strap-ons, why don’t you like dick?” “If you like butch women, why don’t you like men?” The most similar concept is the friendzone. There’s no difference between “Women owe me attention and sex , why won’t they give me a chance, if they reject me they’re entitled bitches who hate nerdy guys,” and “Cis women owe me attention and sex, why won’t they give me a chance, if they reject me they’re transmisogynists.”
Lots of these people act like being attracted to women is being attracted to long hair, high heels, dresses, and makeup, instead of being attracted to the female body. They have a femininity fetish and say that women who like vulvas are the ones with a fetish.
Even the ones who accept that lesbians don’t like dick insist that they have to like neovaginas. A surgically created pocket that doesn’t smell or taste anything like a real vulva and is filled with hairballs and E. coli isn’t something any lesbian wants on her face.
On behalf of their enablers, it’s a mix of straight and bi lesbophobes who are thrilled to have a SJ-approved excuse to attack lesbians, bi people who Do Not Get the concept of preferring one set of genitals over another, and self-hating lesbians who attack other lesbians to hide the fact that, deep inside, getting within three feet of a penis makes them want to vomit.
Why are trans women disproportionately likely to be programmers?
Because socially awkward boys who are bad at performing masculinity tend to be drawn to programming. Lots of these boys socialize with other nerdy boys in sketchy places on the internet and get drawn into various anti-feminist ideologies. They look at feminism and think “I don’t have any privilege because I’m not an alpha male, I get bullied, and I can’t get a date.” Some of them become MRAs or join the Alt-Right. Others find transgender ideology. They learn that the fact that they don’t fit in with the popular guys at school and like lesbian porn means they are really lesbians. They are the most oppressed. The girls who won’t go out with them are transmisogynists. Everything fits.
Explain trans people assigned female at birth.
They fit into two categories, just like trans people assigned male at birth.
A) Female people who transition because they don’t want to be women any more. Women and girls who have been hurt and feel like being a man would protect them, or who hate their bodies because of sexual assault. Butch lesbians who face a lot of homophobic harassment and rejection, and who feel like society doesn’t have a place for them but it’s made for straight men, or who hang out in radiqueer communities where everyone assumes gender non-conforming woman = “masculine of center” = trans or nonbinary. GNC women who’ve absorbed the lie that real women don’t have masculine interests. This is a really sad thing when these women transition and then detransition and have to live in their bodies after testosterone and mastectomies.
B) Female people who transition because of autoandrophilia or a desire to be special. Straight slash fangirls who want to be pretty gay boys like in their favorite yaoi. Lonely teenage girls who hang out on Tumblr where everyone talks about the Evil Cishets and how glad they are to be in the Mogai community which is a 24-7 awesome rainbow party and also gives them a bunch of SJ persecution points they can use to win online arguments. Anyone who’s already listed all the fictional characters she’s kin with and her 17 different self diagnosed personality disorders on her Tumblr About Me and is desperate for more ways to make herself special and unique. This is really sad when these women transition, which is why it’s a good thing that they mostly don’t.
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The first item on the poll refers to what side you think the author of this post really believes, while the second item refers to what side you believe. When taking the poll, if you can POSSIBLY round yourself off to Blanchard-Bailey or gender identity, please do so. Please do this even if you have major disagreements with the side you are leaning towards. Only use “neither” if you really really really cannot in good conscience round yourself to either.
M. Taylor Saotome-Westlake said:
Shibboleth fail! An actual Blanchardian or radfem would never use the phrase “assigned at birth” to describe their own beliefs!
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tcheasdfjkl said:
I’m pretty curious about what you think of all the other entries too.
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M. Taylor Saotome-Westlake said:
My predictions and commentary.
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rlms said:
Voted GI partly to discourage being obnoxious as a viable strategy for pretending to be the enemy.
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watsonbladd said:
It’s just too damn mean and TERFy. This feels like someone read a summary of a summary, imagined their opponents, and went ahead to write.
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tcheasdfjkl said:
Voted fake, but if it turns out to be real, I’ll be extremely curious as to how the author ended up here and what they think of the other entries.
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Tacitus said:
It looks like something from r/gendercritical, but not BB. This person can’t be more familiar with BB than having read a short summary somewhere. Voted fake because I think GI people are more likely to be familiar with TERFs than Blanchardians. I almost think it might be sincere because it’s not even pretending to be BB, so maybe I’m wrong and it’s an actual TERF who thinks “yeah, sure, sexual fetish, sounds plausible” and considers themself BB. It seems unbelievably mean for a genuine essay, but that could be a double-bluff.
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argleblarglebarglebah said:
Like other people are saying, this is a pretty reasonable impersonation of a TERF but not a really plausible one of a BB supporter. Because “TERF” isn’t an option, and Ozy wouldn’t have let this person into the context if they were really a TERF but not a BB supporter, I have to assume this person is a GI supporter.
This entry also has some terminology that I don’t think TERFs would use like “assigned X at birth”.
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Senalishia said:
Agree with previous, it feels too nasty to be sincere. Like, are they even taking this seriously? The answer to the last question was so OTT it was funny to me. “Straight slash fangirls who want to be pretty gay boys like in their favorite yaoi”– gotta be honest if tumblr ever turns me trans this will be why.
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tailcalled said:
Honestly, “Straight slash fangirls who want to be pretty gay boys like in their favorite yaoi” is probably the *most* realistic thing about it.
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leoboiko said:
I’m a somewhat effeminate male bisexual. I’ve dated no less than three women who where yaoi fans and fantasized of being pretty bishōnen gay males. Two of them acted out the roleplay with me, and the third (the only butch seme) turned out fully FTM trans.
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1angelette said:
It’s not impossible for these beliefs to be sincere, but I’d expect at least a token allusion to “androphilic MTFs are less privileged than their counterparts”. And the response to the Explain AFAB people section doesn’t imply that the writer actually disagrees with the two types – so why the complete disappearance? It’s not as simple as, this is simply a “terf” instead of a Blanchard. So I voted GI.
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Doyle said:
Wow this person is a dick
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trentzandrewson said:
This is:
the most hilariously anticharitable thing I’ve read in my life
modelling the wrong belief entirely (they’re related, sure, but it’s like if you were asked to model Catholic vs New Atheist and your ‘Catholic’ was a fundamentalist Baptist)
not even doing a very good job of that belief, which is interesting because I’ve always thought of it as an easy one to model (…we’ll see)
I’m not mad, I’m just disappointed.
(addendum 1: I like how I am neither of the TERFian Typology’s FTM types, though they would try really hard to put me in the first. TERFs are apparently incompatible of modelling a HSTS man who was ego-syntonic about lesbianism and gender-non-conformity, never faced particular amounts of homophobia, wasn’t abused in any way that could plausibly result in dysphoria-type experiences, and was raised in a feminist echo chamber that regurgitated all that ‘love your body’ and ‘change the world not yourself’ bullshit.)
(addendum 2: none of the voting boxes on any of the ITT entries are popping up for me. Is this an issue on my end or the blog’s?)
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trentzandrewson said:
*incapable, not incompatible
someday I will write one thing and use language right the whole way through
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absurdseagull said:
I don’t think the first part is fair. It rather sounds like No True Scotsman to me. Throughout my life, the biggest proponents of Blanchard’s typology that I’ve met have been radfems.
This makes sense because a lot of gendercritical feminist ideology needs autogynephilia to be a motivator to keep the worldview consistent. Yes they don’t agree with Blanchard completely and don’t take his advice of letting transwomen transition. But a lot of gendercritical ideology is based on Bailey’s work. It doesn’t make sense to deny that and if I were participating in the ITT, I probably would have written a radfem piece like this except more focused, more radical and much more feminist.
(You can argue that gender dysphoria can substitute somewhat for autogynephilia/internalized misogyny and has substituted among a subset of mostly transmale gender critical radfems. However, I’d argue that the radfems of the truscum community are in the minority.)
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absurdseagull said:
As a former radfem, this feels insincere and wishy-washy. I don’t have much to go on besides this feeling but generally it misrepresents what I’d believe. It’s definitely on the right track to appearing realistic but doesn’t go far enough or make strong enough statements to be convincing. so I vote GI
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absurdseagull said:
Like large parts just feel like they misunderstand the actual argument gendercritical feminists make or the motivation behind those arguments. The part on transmen doesn’t seem sufficient and doesn’t really talk about gender roles or feminism enough to seem realistic.
I thought the part on why transwomen are programmers felt sincere and the one paragraph about FGM felt sincere. Like, if you are a real radfem, I’m sorry. Unlike other commenters, I don’t think it’s the most obnoxious gendercritical critique I’ve read and I would be happy to discuss with you.
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